
The speaker on Wednesday 9th November was Mr John Nevin, a retired civil servant whose career had been in the Department of Health and Social Services. John began his talk by explaining that the concept of “social security” in Britain goes back of the reign of Henry VIII when monasteries doled out alms in the form of food relief. Old Age Pensions were introduced in 1908, the rate being 5 shillings per week for a single person over 70, and 7 and 6 pence for a married couple.
John entered the social security service as an 18-year-old straight from school, and in the early days very much appreciated the help and guidance he got from older and more experienced colleagues. No-one, he said, likes being unemployed or being made redundant and having to “sign on”. Back in the day this required a 15-minute face to face interview with a member of staff. These encounters could at times become confrontational, but he found that the best way to deal with aggression was to be patient, listening, attentive and reflective. His experiences provided plenty of anecdotes of claimants trying to secure benefits while denying that they had jobs.
While most claimants were honest a small minority were referred to the FIO – Fraud Investigation Office. John reported that although numbers were small (5%) the cost to the public purse was considerable – 5% of £980 million (total budget for 2024 in Northern Ireland) equates to £49 m. Interestingly, some 60% of claimants claim less than their entitlement.
Mr Nevin was warmly thanked for his talk by Club Member Harman Scott


